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first of all, you see senators lindsey graham and john mccain. two of the biggest headaches for this president, especially going into the second term, but sitting between them tonight, you will see senator chuck schumer, the number three democrat in the house. he wants to craft an immigration compromise with republicans. they're his two closest allies on that. so, they will be down there together. and also, i see, out of camera view off to the side, we have, for the first time in american history, two african-american senators. both recently appointed to fill vacancies. tim scott of south carolina, senator will cowan of massachusetts. and they are democrat and republican and they are sitting together also on the side. but for the most part, they are back to their battle stations here. >> another simple of bipartisan unity, about 40 members of congress will be wearing orange pins, that stands for the no labels movement. democrats and republicans who are committed, they say, to reaching across party lines in order to get something done. about 40 or
first of all, you see senators lindsey graham and john mccain. two of the biggest headaches for this president, especially going into the second term, but sitting between them tonight, you will see senator chuck schumer, the number three democrat in the house. he wants to craft an immigration compromise with republicans. they're his two closest allies on that. so, they will be down there together. and also, i see, out of camera view off to the side, we have, for the first time in american...
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she was standing about three feet away from lindsey graham and john mccain two of the people who were hardest on her for the benghazi matter. we didn't see any interchange at all. usually they studiously ignore each other. >> i did john mccain and lindsey graham hug in an almost unseemly fashion. leon panetta the out going secretary of defense. they have been two of the most critical of the nominee to be his successor, chuck hagel. it is date night too. i want to point out that. the democratic senator from colorado two years ago proposed, judy, that members instead of just democrats sitting with democrats and republicans... this year i think he's doing it with the republican senator from alaska, that peoplec with people from the other party and across the aisle. several members have done it. i think mccain and gram seem to be a couple of them. >> they share the popcorn. woodruff: that's a tradition they started a few years ago. a a number of members picked it up. it seemed to fade. >> it was done right after the gabrielle giffords. >> woodruff: she's here tonight. i don't think we've
she was standing about three feet away from lindsey graham and john mccain two of the people who were hardest on her for the benghazi matter. we didn't see any interchange at all. usually they studiously ignore each other. >> i did john mccain and lindsey graham hug in an almost unseemly fashion. leon panetta the out going secretary of defense. they have been two of the most critical of the nominee to be his successor, chuck hagel. it is date night too. i want to point out that. the...
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we'll show you why john mccain says why republicans have it in for the nominee. >>> the karn vil cruise ship, at lost last returned to port last night with little power, few working bathrooms. there was a collective sigh of relief from the more than 3,000 passengers. but even leaving the "triumph" proved difficult. with one working elevators, it took fours to disembark. nbc's mark potter joins us live from mobile, alabama, passengers are off the ship, mark from talking to them what is the lasting image that you're going to have of this endeavor. >> well, it's very clear, they're very glad to be off that ship and on terra firma. people were along the ralgs cheering when it come to dock. most said that the living conditions after that engine fire just got increasingly worse and became unbearable. maybe said the worst time was right after the engine fire because they didn't know what was going on. they hadn't been fully informed and that scared them. as we heard at the beginning of the program, many people also praised the crew members saying they worked really hard to comfort the passenge
we'll show you why john mccain says why republicans have it in for the nominee. >>> the karn vil cruise ship, at lost last returned to port last night with little power, few working bathrooms. there was a collective sigh of relief from the more than 3,000 passengers. but even leaving the "triumph" proved difficult. with one working elevators, it took fours to disembark. nbc's mark potter joins us live from mobile, alabama, passengers are off the ship, mark from talking to...
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straight talk, john mccain, yesterday. ultimately, hagel's issues with his former gop colleagues are simply personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel, because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush, mercilessly, at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover. said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very anti-his own party and people. people don't forget that. >> there you go. a delay is never a good thing, because it does give hagel's opponents additional time to try to torpedo his nomination. the fact that hagel essentially got 59 votes, including four from republicans, suggest that he's likely to be confirmed when this vote comes up again on february 26th. the fact is hagel's going to be a weakened secretary of defense in all of this. is that damage temporary or permanent? yesterday also highlighted a growing problem with the gop, that they are dealing, and one many republicans outside of d.c. fret about. it's clear wh
straight talk, john mccain, yesterday. ultimately, hagel's issues with his former gop colleagues are simply personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel, because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush, mercilessly, at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover. said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very anti-his own party and people. people don't forget that. >> there you go. a...
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barely in office a month and listen to this exchange he had with john mccain. >> it is at a minimum relevant to know if that $200,000 that he deposited in his bank account came directly from saudi arabia, came directly from north korea. >> senator hagel is an honorable man. he has served his country, and no one on this committee at any time should impugn his character or his integrity. >> now, cruz went on to say, i don't have any evidence that moneys come from north korea but i mean this is a fellow member of the texas delegation. >> sure, and i met ted, and he's always been nice to me, but that was, quite frankly, shameful to suggest that somebody that was a decorated veteran in vietnam, who was wounded and hurt for his country was not loyal to his country i think really is quite harsh and had no place there. >> you know what, he's not running for senator congeniality and he doesn't much care. there was no predicate for suggesting that that money came from north korea or any other very horrible country, and as the former solicitor general of texas, he ought to know better than that. if you
barely in office a month and listen to this exchange he had with john mccain. >> it is at a minimum relevant to know if that $200,000 that he deposited in his bank account came directly from saudi arabia, came directly from north korea. >> senator hagel is an honorable man. he has served his country, and no one on this committee at any time should impugn his character or his integrity. >> now, cruz went on to say, i don't have any evidence that moneys come from north korea but...
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he's been mean to john mccain. this process has said more about republicans than quite franklin it has said about chuck -- >> what about this issue of him -- is he going to be in charge of the pentagon? >> i think that is going to be the test for chuck hagel when he is sworn in fairly quickly and fairly soon as the next defense secretary. and i think there's no doubt he's going to go into that building and he'll take strong command of it. and that's what is going to be remembered. >> that is the toughest job in washington for the best and most qualified person and this process has weakened him, and his personality is probably not suited for this job. i can assure you of one thing. robert gibbs is going to be very happy he's not standing at that press podium the first time chuck hagel opines about the president's foreign policy and their disagreements on it. >> i can tell you there were a lot of reporters that were answering to be on this trip to brussels. >> the reasons that are being shown to hold up this nominati
he's been mean to john mccain. this process has said more about republicans than quite franklin it has said about chuck -- >> what about this issue of him -- is he going to be in charge of the pentagon? >> i think that is going to be the test for chuck hagel when he is sworn in fairly quickly and fairly soon as the next defense secretary. and i think there's no doubt he's going to go into that building and he'll take strong command of it. and that's what is going to be remembered....
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. >> jon: wow, there is senator john mccain up off his feet cheering comprehensive immigration reform. i'm sure he is not doing that to pander to hispanic votes. how did he figure out -- how did he feel about that before he figured out they wouldn't win a national election without that. we should be working on comprehensive immigration right now. [laughter] >> jon: so weird! as soon as they comprehensive immigration reform the floor fell and mccain even though he is standing and cheering cannot be seen. [ laughter ] it was on rubio to bring word of this accepting republican party. his performance was perhaps [speak spanish] and sudden it will story was the self deportation of marco rubio's saliva from the inside of his mouth to the outside of his face. don't wipe. you are only drawing attention -- not the spittle. this can't end well. well as long as you don't -- no-o-o-o! don't! no oooo! why? [laughter] i gotta say obama talked for an hour without such as a sip. may need a prompter but at least he doesn't need an iv bag. few people know this but lost in last night's -- [laughter] yea
. >> jon: wow, there is senator john mccain up off his feet cheering comprehensive immigration reform. i'm sure he is not doing that to pander to hispanic votes. how did he figure out -- how did he feel about that before he figured out they wouldn't win a national election without that. we should be working on comprehensive immigration right now. [laughter] >> jon: so weird! as soon as they comprehensive immigration reform the floor fell and mccain even though he is standing and...
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senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly. at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very amti his own party and his own people. people don't forget that. >> people also don't forget that years after hagel's republican herecy, john mccane said this of the man in 2006. i would be honored to have chuck with me in any capacity. he'd make a great secretary of state. people have also not forgotten that this filibuster has nothing to do with chuck hagel and everything to do with a republican vendetta against the white house. >> all three of us said we're not going to go forward on the hagel nomination until they testify about what happened in benghazi. >> and while republicans now say this latest delay will give them enough time to decide about hagel, they continue to leave the door open to unspecified shan an begans. >> i'm confident in the next week, un
senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly. at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very amti his own party and his own people. people don't forget that. >> people also don't forget that years after hagel's republican herecy, john mccane...
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john mccain. pelosi and mccain only on "fox news sunday." then, senators grill the president's nominee for cia director over the targeted killing of terrorist suspects. we will ask our sunday panel about new demands to lift the veil on drone strikes. and our power player of the week can tell you almost everything the president does and how you often he does it. all right now on "fox news sunday." >> chris: and hello again from fox news in washington. when president obama delivers his state of the union is speech tuesday, one big issue will be sequestration. $85 billion in automatic spending cuts due to kick in march 1. the white house now warns this will mean damaging layoffs of teachersers law enforcement and food safety inspectors and the pentagon will be hit, too. they propose a mix of spending cuts and, yes, more taxes through limiting deductions for the wealthy. i sat down late friday with house democratic leader nancy pelosi and asked her are about the fast approaching deadline. congress wom
john mccain. pelosi and mccain only on "fox news sunday." then, senators grill the president's nominee for cia director over the targeted killing of terrorist suspects. we will ask our sunday panel about new demands to lift the veil on drone strikes. and our power player of the week can tell you almost everything the president does and how you often he does it. all right now on "fox news sunday." >> chris: and hello again from fox news in washington. when president...
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when it comes to the issue it turns out that john mccain says there was a massive cover up after the attack happened but the senator wouldn't go into much detail about how the coverup took place or what the obama administration is exactly trying to hide read all about it on our team dot com and don't forget to follow me on twitter at meghan underscore lopez my question to my twitter followers tonight is should the u.s. permanently hope the keystone x.l. pipeline and if so what should we do to quench america's thirst for energy tweet me at mega.
when it comes to the issue it turns out that john mccain says there was a massive cover up after the attack happened but the senator wouldn't go into much detail about how the coverup took place or what the obama administration is exactly trying to hide read all about it on our team dot com and don't forget to follow me on twitter at meghan underscore lopez my question to my twitter followers tonight is should the u.s. permanently hope the keystone x.l. pipeline and if so what should we do to...
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john mccain is a traitor. he said he was a war criminal before they brought him back out of vietnam. people forgot about that. i do not know about senator graham. host: senator mccain defended the reputation of former senator hagel the other day. does that change your opinion at all? caller: i know he did. mccain is on both sides. from let's go to a clip the debate yesterday. this is carl levin, democrat of michigan. he talked about why he thinks the senate should move ahead on this confirmation vote. >> i think the continuation of what amounts to a filibuster, since 60 votes are required, is it too bad when there is a secretary of defense who is leaving to go back to california, and we very much need to have our new secretary of defense in place, given the circumstances in this world. we have a budget crisis in this country, where sequester is confronting us. that sequester will have a damaging effect on the defense department, on the men and women in uniform, and on programs, the equipment, the training that
john mccain is a traitor. he said he was a war criminal before they brought him back out of vietnam. people forgot about that. i do not know about senator graham. host: senator mccain defended the reputation of former senator hagel the other day. does that change your opinion at all? caller: i know he did. mccain is on both sides. from let's go to a clip the debate yesterday. this is carl levin, democrat of michigan. he talked about why he thinks the senate should move ahead on this...
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john mccain, row wicker, lindsey graham. they all did it. senator graham says he does not want his filibuster today to be thought of as a filibuster even though that's what it is. he says he prefers to think of what he did is blocking the nomination because he wants to use it as leverage to get more information out of the administration on the president's birth certificate, i'm sorry i mean aliens in area 51. i'm sorry. i mean his thoughts about what happened in benghazi. what does hagel know about benghazi? nothing. he had nothing to do with it. but lindsey graham is filibustering his nomination over it anyway. since chuck hagel had nothing to do with it substantively, why block his nomination instead of, say, the john kerry nomination which sailed through the senate? don't know. why not? wrecking stuff is fun, maybe? hulk smash. the guy who the republicans waited to spring this on for the first time in our nation's history to break all precedent is a former republican senator from a red state, a decorated and wounded combat veteran nominat
john mccain, row wicker, lindsey graham. they all did it. senator graham says he does not want his filibuster today to be thought of as a filibuster even though that's what it is. he says he prefers to think of what he did is blocking the nomination because he wants to use it as leverage to get more information out of the administration on the president's birth certificate, i'm sorry i mean aliens in area 51. i'm sorry. i mean his thoughts about what happened in benghazi. what does hagel know...
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in 2008 john mccain swept every county. in 2004 george bush swept every county. oklahoma is the reddest place we've got in america. and republicans, you may have heard, like to think that they do not think much of the policy ideas of barack obama. which is why it was so interesting to hear the two states that president obama mentioned as models when he announced his state of the union plan for preschool. >> tonight i propose working with states to make high-quality preschool available to every single child in america. [ applause ] in states that make it a priority to educate our youngest children, like georgia or oklahoma, studies show students grow up more likely to read and do math at grade level, graduate high school, hold a job, form more stable families of their own. >> president obama took that proposal on the road, visiting a prek class, pre-kindergarten class in decatur, georgia. he played a game of i spy with the kids there and noticed the magnifying class glancy drew style. he had phonics. he did the kinds of things you do in pre-k if you have pre-k whe
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i understand john mccain making a point. he also said that chuck hagel was friend of his and i thought, boy, with friends like that. but i think if you're outside of washington, you have to say, what are these guys and girls doing? we're going to have an acting secretary of defense. we've got a foregone conclusion, and maybe they should stop playing these procedural games and just do the vote. >> that's interesting about the vote. i remember john powers, they within through him and he was turned down. >> he got the vote. >> got it. right you are. there is a graphic here. shows these delays and these procedures have skyrocketed. look at that. straight right up the past few years. why do you think that? you're a veteran of washington. is it partisanship? what are these guys thinks about when this comes to the floor and they try to stop all this? >> i think it's partisanship run amuck. i'm old enough to remember and i worked in the senate some years ago, when we actually worked together and, you know, strom thurman was the rank
i understand john mccain making a point. he also said that chuck hagel was friend of his and i thought, boy, with friends like that. but i think if you're outside of washington, you have to say, what are these guys and girls doing? we're going to have an acting secretary of defense. we've got a foregone conclusion, and maybe they should stop playing these procedural games and just do the vote. >> that's interesting about the vote. i remember john powers, they within through him and he was...
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>> well, let me now defend john mccain a bit on that front. i disagree with him holding up chuck hagel for personal reasons, and i made that very clear off the top of the show. certainly with big defense cuts coming and with 66,000 troops in afghanistan. but this is the way the united states senate works. and it's the way the houseworked as well. if you had somebody on the house floor, and we saw this, going on the floor time and time again and rubbing people -- it's one thing to oppose a bill. >> right. >> it's one thing to oppose a war. it's one thing to oppose a surge. but chuck hagel seemed to relish in the great publicity he was getting by rubbing president bush's nose in it, by rubbing john mccain's nose in it, by rubbing his republican colleagues' nose in it. he was acting self-righteous and like he was the only holy man in washington, d.c. i'm not, again, defending what the republicans are doing today, but i think whether you talk to carl or anybody else, this is the way washington works. i said it about ted cruz. ted cruz is going to
>> well, let me now defend john mccain a bit on that front. i disagree with him holding up chuck hagel for personal reasons, and i made that very clear off the top of the show. certainly with big defense cuts coming and with 66,000 troops in afghanistan. but this is the way the united states senate works. and it's the way the houseworked as well. if you had somebody on the house floor, and we saw this, going on the floor time and time again and rubbing people -- it's one thing to oppose a...
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i, john mccain will not filibuster him. then after a talk with lindsey graham he decided to talk with a group that was filibustering in an effort to get the benghazi documents. he voted to uphold the filibuster on thursday. now he says that hagel will get confirmed. so i think that there's no doubt that the unless some sort of new information comes out and the whole situation changes, hagel will be confirmed. jon: i want to ask you this question, and then give you my sort of theory on it. why the did the president nominate chuck hagel to begin with? i wondered from the start whether this was a republican nominee whom the president knew would not be popular among his fellow republicans and it might somehow make the republican members of senate look small? >> and created those very divisions we were talking about. first of all the president nominated hagel because i think he thinks hagel is pretty much in the same place as the president on a number of major public policy issues and he nedded a -- needed a secretary of defense
i, john mccain will not filibuster him. then after a talk with lindsey graham he decided to talk with a group that was filibustering in an effort to get the benghazi documents. he voted to uphold the filibuster on thursday. now he says that hagel will get confirmed. so i think that there's no doubt that the unless some sort of new information comes out and the whole situation changes, hagel will be confirmed. jon: i want to ask you this question, and then give you my sort of theory on it. why...
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john mccain, lindsey graham, they're always together. not surprisingly. they're good friends, allies on so many of these issues. this is a moment where so many members of the house and the senate, democrats and republicans, some actually try to sit together to demonstrate that there can be some bipartisan cooperation. we'll see what kind of reaction the president of the united states gets when he utters some of the famous words that he will be saying. there you see, by the way, also behind dennis mcdonough, you see eric holder, the attorney general right there. but we did see susan rice, the ambassador to the unit, john boehner, the speaker, joe biden, the vice president will be presiding over this session. chris cuomo is watching it. as soon as the members of the cabinet come in, the president will be introduced. >> thank you very much. let's come back to our minds over here. you're giving me ideas for what you want to talk about. we hear from the white house that this speech will be effective because the president is doing what he does best, speaking to
john mccain, lindsey graham, they're always together. not surprisingly. they're good friends, allies on so many of these issues. this is a moment where so many members of the house and the senate, democrats and republicans, some actually try to sit together to demonstrate that there can be some bipartisan cooperation. we'll see what kind of reaction the president of the united states gets when he utters some of the famous words that he will be saying. there you see, by the way, also behind...
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as the morning into the afteoon prressed, more and more republicans-- including john mccain and lindsey graham-- were coming out of a meeting with republicans saying "we're satisfied in the case of john mccain and graham, request the answers we got about benghazi from the white house. we're satisfied now. but we don't think other senators have had enough time. they're not on the arms services commit tee so we'll vote to hold this up now, when we come back in ten days we'll vote yes. it's not blocking, we just want to slow down." >> warner: what were the motivations? you had reid taking it to a vote where it was predicted he would lose and republicans said yeah we'll vote for it in another ten days but not now. what are the politics here? >> on the republican side, the politics have shifted from the center of the three amigos on national security, jindsy graham john mccain and senator kelly ayotte from new hampshire. it's shifted away from them. they had questions about benghazi which had been a major political issue since before the election. those seem to be moving off the table now. t
as the morning into the afteoon prressed, more and more republicans-- including john mccain and lindsey graham-- were coming out of a meeting with republicans saying "we're satisfied in the case of john mccain and graham, request the answers we got about benghazi from the white house. we're satisfied now. but we don't think other senators have had enough time. they're not on the arms services commit tee so we'll vote to hold this up now, when we come back in ten days we'll vote yes. it's...
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the number one is john mccain who was tortured over a long period of time and has been a huge critic of this country conducting torture. what is going to happen to american officials, military and intelligence officials, foreign officials, service officials who lined up in the hands of others who know that the united states has been tortured? what did it have to do with ander on the cia in the middle east? that's never been explored the we've always looked at benghazi as the problem of the consulate that was a loosely destructive consulate and i thought it was an intelligence platform. there is a lot of anger and a rendition, torture, abuse, secret prisons, and then we expect that under the rug and obama would address some of this and he hasn't. you know, guantanamo remains open but has written in "the new york times" people in guantanamo are probably better off than if they are brought to the united states to serve and presence in the country given what's happened to guantanamo because the human rights watch and the red cross keeping an eye on things. there's tremendous anger throug
the number one is john mccain who was tortured over a long period of time and has been a huge critic of this country conducting torture. what is going to happen to american officials, military and intelligence officials, foreign officials, service officials who lined up in the hands of others who know that the united states has been tortured? what did it have to do with ander on the cia in the middle east? that's never been explored the we've always looked at benghazi as the problem of the...
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this is i think the cartoonization of john mccain if you will. this is the guy who believed sarah palin was qualified to be president of the united states, and so the attack on chuck hagel, who is a decorated veteran who served in the senate for many years, most senates think just the fact you held that office makes you qualified. there's always been a deference to fellow colleagues. again, i think this is the republicans grasping for issues and arguments so they can satisfy the base in a way that is offensive to i would say certainly all the democrats and many, many independents, and again it goes to the central point i make. the republicans at some point are going to have to pick an issue that they can win a fight on. here not only are they going to lose the fight, but they have lost the argument in large part because the argument has consistently shifted. first it was about benghazi. then they conceded they had the information on benghazi. then it was this ludicrous argument that hagel is taking money from foreign enemies that has no support f
this is i think the cartoonization of john mccain if you will. this is the guy who believed sarah palin was qualified to be president of the united states, and so the attack on chuck hagel, who is a decorated veteran who served in the senate for many years, most senates think just the fact you held that office makes you qualified. there's always been a deference to fellow colleagues. again, i think this is the republicans grasping for issues and arguments so they can satisfy the base in a way...
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john mccain favored cap and trade. all of that has been undone and destroyed as the republican party has put this in this shrinking denial of the political strain. i think the president was trying to point that out and that's why john mccain felt uncomfortable. >> sitting between two democratic senators and wishing he wasn't. he said i am not going to urge congress to act, i recognize they might not, but he threatened to go it alone and do something on his own. how significant do you think those were if congress couldn't get it done? >> this is a huge sleeper policy. the supreme court has found that there is the epa could regulate the clean air act. there could be a cap and trade kind of regime. they would have to structure it differently, which means the executive and conservatives have been fighting tooth and nail to be sure it doesn't happen. if there is little political coverage in congress, it is the threat of uni rival action that has some republicans and lobbyists on the hill scurrying because they are worried a
john mccain favored cap and trade. all of that has been undone and destroyed as the republican party has put this in this shrinking denial of the political strain. i think the president was trying to point that out and that's why john mccain felt uncomfortable. >> sitting between two democratic senators and wishing he wasn't. he said i am not going to urge congress to act, i recognize they might not, but he threatened to go it alone and do something on his own. how significant do you...
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after both lindsey graham and john mccain said they were largely satisfied according to the hill, but they still wanted to push the hagueel vote back. in reality it's not like they actually care about any of that. this is purely about political grandstanding. and speaking of that john boehner is using the senate to excuse his complete lack of action in the house. >> the president likes to attack congress but if he's serious about enacting his agenda, i think it must start with the part of this congress, the united states senate. why can't he get past in the united states senate? >> michael: that's a really good question mr. speaker. let's get to work, senate democrats. joining me now philip ewing. he comes to us from washington, d.c. philip, welcome inside "the war room"." >> thanks for having me. >> michael: let's just start at the basics about hagel. once the senate gets closure what will be next for chuck hagel? >> the way it will probably work is that republicans want to vote on thursday to end debate on hagel. it doesn't look like democrats have the votes to stop their barricade,
after both lindsey graham and john mccain said they were largely satisfied according to the hill, but they still wanted to push the hagueel vote back. in reality it's not like they actually care about any of that. this is purely about political grandstanding. and speaking of that john boehner is using the senate to excuse his complete lack of action in the house. >> the president likes to attack congress but if he's serious about enacting his agenda, i think it must start with the part of...
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even john mccain who was quite critical in the hearing said this nomination should go through. >> right. >> well, yeah. on that point, it looks like the nomination will be confirmed. the problem is it loonlgs like there's a filibuster or attempt at a filibuster and that means democrats and the white house have to come up with 60 votes to get this through. mccain has indicated to break a filibuster. looks like they would have the votes to do that. do you think we have sort of crossed a line here, bad precedent set for future cabinet nominations? never before has there been a filibuster of a defense secretary nominee. only two rejected since 1959. nobody tried to filibuster one in that time. are we creating bad precedent? >> why the senate has the right as a senator said who is supporting senator hagel to do a filibuster. i think it would set a bad precedent because as many people often very conservative have said in this particular case, the president has the right to have who he wants as cabinet secretary as long as there's nothing egregious in the background. i think in this particular
even john mccain who was quite critical in the hearing said this nomination should go through. >> right. >> well, yeah. on that point, it looks like the nomination will be confirmed. the problem is it loonlgs like there's a filibuster or attempt at a filibuster and that means democrats and the white house have to come up with 60 votes to get this through. mccain has indicated to break a filibuster. looks like they would have the votes to do that. do you think we have sort of crossed...